This won't delete the articles you've saved, just the list. 10 maybe. OSB, or oriented strand board (a composite panel similar to plywood) is up a whopping 152%, from $170 a year ago to $428 currently. We want to install the boards on the ceiling also. Then, if the house is getting a shingle roof, plywood or OSB decking is nailed over the trusses. At what ACH do i need to consider an HRV (i also have a gas cooking stove and chimney vent water tank, furnace was replaced with 95.5AFUE with intake and exhaust 6 months ago). I do know the outside walls are supported on extensions (outriggers) from the main I beams. TomPaul,I hope youre still around. Hired a civil engineer who told me it would meet residential building codes with these few changes. I removed date stamps because most of the information doesnt change much.I wouldnt expect any problems unless you have a particle board subfloor that has had water damage in the past. It certainly wasnt designed for it. Manufacturers and dealers love to blame each other so at least some manufacturers video tape the inside, Read More Mobile Home ManufacturersContinue, I am frequently asked for help finding someone who does good, affordable, repair work. The interior boards may have been an experiment in putting the sheathing on the interior so it could double as lath. The argument goes that colonists, not happy with wattle-and-daub infill over their timber frame buildings, installed clapboards on the outside walls for better weather protection. These were movable beach-front properties built in the Outer Banks region of North Carolina. I too wanted to mention the in between size with the added 1/8". are put in place, wall mirrors hung etc. Cut the 4 x 4 to a length that makes a tight fit between the top of the block and the bottom of the wall. Cavity wall insulation was first introduced during the 1970s, becoming compulsory in the 1990s for all new UK buildings. I was wondering if I could just attach light weight bead board to the 22s (I assume thats whats in there! Other tips on age. I see the industry standard wall for most of North America circa 2015 being 2x6 advanced frame at 24-inch centers with exterior foam insulating sheathing and a spray applied cavity insulation lined with gypsum board (Photograph 5). Frank Nunes, when I refer to you as a dauber I am not insulting youit was an honorable old profession and you are certainly getting older. The wall we want to remove is 46 long, will this still cause a problem and if so what would be the issue. Even more questions, what is the R value per inch of loose fill cellulose, the company i hired did it instead of dense pack so i will have to get it fixed someday. There may or may not be a building paper between the clapboards and the sheathing. We are trying to roughly figure out what a 1971 Safeway 48x24ft trailer weighs empty. Their job is to figure out the cheapest ways to meet, but not exceed the HUD standards. We have a roof built over our trailer (and existing addition alongside); I want to open up between the trailer and the addition. Last winter with the 80% furnace it was using indoor air and the humidity was at 30% and i had a hell of a time trying to raise it (i gave up), but with the new furnace i have had 50% humidity till about -10C and at -20C i am down to 30% (i get shocks every time i leave the computer). Openings for windows and electrical outlets are cut. For example, valuable land where no new homes were allowed. ERI (Energy Rating Index)- Have a HERS Rater do a rating on the house and score a 52-55 (depending on climate zone) or better. And am I supposed to put plastic on the dirt under my trailor? You dont want to cut, remove or mess with those. Wilton sellerscheck and make sure your dryer duct is vented to the outside of your home.If it is not moister from your dryer could affect your floor if you have any belly board or insulation missing. Once the word gets out, I predict a big increase . On December 19, 2014 the Government of BC made a revision to the BC Building Code 2012 in order to increase the Energy Efficiency and Ventilation requirements of new homes and renovations and. We still see this distinction today regionally in the United States and in Australia and New Zealand, no sheathing, just an exterior cladding. Drivers occasionally rub against traffic signs etc. You can look at the pdf for wind rules and anything else you might want to see. The nails allowed us to get rid of complex joinery no more mortise and tenon and allow relatively unskilled folks to nail together mass produced small sticks (2x4s and 2x6s and 2x8s) spaced closely together in a light frame. The weight will be directly over the I beams which is good.I dont know what sort of feet come on pool tables but if you wanted to distribute the weight you might consider putting down some plywood squares under the table. Ive been patching and sealing the metal roof and removing the rust. At this point i doubt i ever will, according to Hot2000 if reduced to 7 ACH50, and insulate the attic and basement (i am considering spray foam directly on basement brick if thats safe to do) the heat load will be down to 24250BTU at -20C which is just over 1/3 of what i started with. OR am I just biting off more than I can chew and should just scrap the whole idea and not even try?PaulIn my (painful) experience it would be a big mistake. Along with floors and walls, The ceilings crew have been busy laying panels out on a jig and setting pre-assembled trusses in place. Certainly, a house with a brick foundation was built before World War II. (better) code is good. Five or six people can do all this in an hour or less. Do they show up promptly if there is a problem. So we had two approaches going here. Impregnated felts and coated papers came much later. This is when protective mats are taken off the vinyl and any damage discovered. Return the toilet as defective and try a different one? This is the point where some critical management decisions get made. R&D courtesy of the US DOE Building America Program. Am I able to take down the interior walls without worrying about structural integrity? are cut and the electrical boxes installed. Mobile Home HumorContinue, Effective complaining about mobile home problems requires knowledge. There are 4 ways to pass the code: Prescriptive- Do exactly what the code recommends. This was adopted by the various provinces and municipalities in Canada during the next 20 years. And it gives extra room in the walls for insulation, plumbing pipes and electrical fixtures. Whats my best fix short of major construction? Lumber's price remains well above its pre-pandemic range of $350 to $500, however. You have to know exactly what the problem is and who is responsible for it. The walls get a 14" top and bottom plate, as well as fire-rated interior paneling and often metal anchor bonding times for added rigidity. It has been argued that it happened the other way around. Frequently they left the wheels and axles under the home too. The temptation will be to ship them anyhow. 2x6 walls are bigger than 2x4 walls. with the additional lath and plaster added after they had trouble wit the plaster sticking. The cost to build with 2x6 is also high and at a minimum adds $2,149.90 to the cost of the build, even more if you upgrade your insulation. Did water get under it, was the soil not properly compacted, etc. 2x4 studs are used for interior walls. I have a 1986 D/W. Asphalt shingle roof systems work great and are long-lasting up to 20 to 30 years. I MIGHT have water before winter sets in this year.PaulGood luck with all that.I find it hard to imagine making a mobile home weather tight in your climate.Paul. While the roof is being done, others are fastening siding. For any nominal lumber dimension over 6 inches, the dimensional size will be inch smaller. I was wondering if there was a quick way to find out where the wires are. Nails used to be made by hand by smiths. Was any wind strapping used then? Should I worry about all of the extra weight added to the roof? wood-frame construction 8 Jan 2009 146/2009 Revisions: structural requirements for 5 and 6 storey wood-frame construction 3 April 2009 22/2009 Revisions: adaptable housing 3 Sep 2009 322/2009 Revisions: geotechnical slope stability regulations and seismic 22 Dec 2009 45/2010 Revisions: amendment of Code 23 Feb 2010 The interior walls are pre-assembled, with paneling on only one side so the inside is accessible to electrical. So what was the function of the building paper? weatherboarding) appear to be descended from the original timber frame vertical plank infill. In the early years of regulating building construction, this caused a patchwork of building codes across Canada. The 1980s. I have thought about opening the wall and sister-ing each stud with another 2x 3 board so that the wall will be sturdier. (Yeslots of money not wisely spent I knowI knowI knowbut had to live there much longer than planned and I couldnt stand the added depression from living in ugly.) Is there? The safe weighs 500 pounds and will end up being 600 pounds fully loaded. A physical inspection needs someone young and skinny who knows where to (carefully) place their hands and feet or you will be coming back to the website to look into ceiling repairs. Good luck. My house looks mostly like the victory style in that pdf file, but not quite, and i am surrounded by Regency, Edwardian, and some late Victorian. Pry off a piece of interior trim from around the door or a window. You might want to look up Trailersteading by Anna Hess on Amazon and read her thoughts. The owner of the insulation company, who is also a builder, notes that the cost to extend doors and windows to accommodate a 2x6 wall is substantial because everything that is standard is made for 2x4. In 1958, the first double section off-site built home was constructed to a local building code, and thus the modular housing industry was born! I am of course talking about walls. In REM Design there is a built-in module that lets you easily determine if you pass the Michigan Energy Code. And if the last twenty years are any indication of what the next twenty are going to be like hold on to your hats. In addition the walls rest on the very end of the outriggers so weight their puts the maximum stress (leverage) onto the support system. A. Now suppose an electrical breaker blows whenever the AC comes on. Homes built prior to 1976 had only one or two inches of insulation wrapped around the walls, floor and ceiling, 2 x 2 or 2 x 3 studs, uninsulated air ducts in the floor and ceiling, no ceiling vapor barrier, and jalousie windows. I am not sure what to look at to see if there is any problems and the reviews on fleetwood is less than good. The term clapboards comes from the Dutch klaphout (klappen, to split, crack). The second really big thing was the development of machine made nails. I know that seems crazy because the prescriptive code states you have to install R-20 in the walls. I have to almost gut floor sag issues (roof shingle layers weight bearing is in excess so bowing floors all exterior walls out). So here we go, To determine the cost effectiveness of 2x6 construction. This compete plastering of the exterior to improve weather resistance became known as pargetting.7 Today we call it stucco, and it is made from Portland cement, sand and water. If the I beams fail, can I fix?PaulMake the most of it, spend the least possible, consider any money spent as spent, not an investment. Im hoping we can have more of a cathedral ceiling on the trailer, a beam separating the trailer and addition, and the cathedral ceiling on the addition side. A thicker wall provides better strength, insulation, and has a better look at the door and window openings. The standards that must be met depend on where the home will be located. Developed in the late 1970s, OSB is made of rectangular wood strands glued and pressed together. So I had 1/4 inch sheetrock installed over and glued to the panel board, ripped out the kitchen and bathrooms and replaced with standard cabinets and bath fixtures, replaced the carpet with laminate flooring, and replaced all the plumbing, lighting, windows, and doors. I have been an HVAC installer, insulation company owner, HERS Rater, BPI Building Analyst trainer and energy auditor. My question is would the ceiling support this much added weight, in your opinion? Please subscribe to get updates when the next blog is published. I would like to cover the floors with plywood and then install wood floors I know I will have to do some shimming. Save Sort by: Oldest worthy 13 years ago loriHii have a 1979 1468 mobile home with a metal roof. The floor of our home seem to be rippling . reassuring words for boyfriend. Someone uses a router to cut notches into all the exterior wall studs and wire for the wall outlets is stapled in these notches. It looks like it might be the tow bar but ive really no idea. This distance will be a little more than 8 inches if you have 2-by-6-inch framing and a little more than 6 inches if you have 2-by-4-inch framing. Weatherboarding is a term Europeans use to refer to the cladding installed on the exterior of a house consisting of long thin timber boards that overlap one another either vertically or horizontally. Depending on how much the blocks sink into the soil and how much the wall rises you my have to repeat the process a few times.Then get to work on the places where water is getting into the walls and causes in the sagging, PennyMy daughter recently moved into her grandmothers doublewide which had been empty for 3 years only to discover raccoons in the ceiling. Living in New Mexico we also have very dry air. Insulation is unrolled between the studs. Lumber . They really do not have the strength to support more weight.For what you describe I think you will need to think about a roof-over with all the weight of new materials supported by posts set on the ground.Paul, JustinI have a shult single wide made in 2001. To tell you the truth I dont know if it was like this when I got it or not.I tried jacking on the edge of the floors , in one area and it came back,but I was afraid to have all that weight on the floor edge. Mobile Homes built before 1976 were constructed to much lower standards than those built later. Is it functional? You might consider building some kind of support structure that stands on the floor. Lets look at some insulation options relative to a baseline of 2x4 with R-15 batt: The cost to build with 2x4 prescriptively is extremely high, adding up to $6,264 in costs. Water/moisture is the only thing I know that commonly causes problems with mobile home floors. Jul 21, 2014. Common characteristics included: 26 walls, stippled ceilings now standard, introduced PVC vinyl double pane windows, improved ventilation systems, skylights and vinyl or wood siding standard, no more metal siding. The answer to your question varies from location to location. Will it hold a king sized free flow waterbed in the master suite at the end of the home?PaulIm thinking that if waterbeds fell through the floors of mobile homes it would make the evening newsSo you should be fine.I did see a couple of bedrooms where the waterbed leaked. In December, lumber prices hit thier lowest level, falling briefly below the $400 per thousand board feet mark (a key indicator for the market performance of this commodity.) Performance- I have passed using several different home designs. Mobile homes manufactured in 1976 or later were built to much higher standards required by the HUD (US Government Dept. This may be hardboard, metal, or vinyl. The homes were moved by teams of horses. Unless some handyman did some really creative work (which is possible) the kitchen drain should connect to the main line by the shortest possible path. Without the roof in place the walls have no lateral support.If you want a cathedral ceiling, which I can understand, you need to shop for a home that already has one.Paul, TerryHi: My wife and I bought a 1976 Barrington Mobile Home, our celling truses are 2+2. Ill buy all of this except for the part that the clapboards weatherboarding idea originated in New England. However most of this type of construction is in recent years (past decade) LocationTampa Bay, Florida, USA. The modern round wire nails began replacing square cut nails shortly before 1900. and 1971 were constructed with aluminum wiring. But IAlisonsorry to continue. On smaller less expensive worker cottages there is often no board sheathing and no building paper just the clapboards. Construction is an ancient human activity. 05-08-2017, 05:50 AM #3. Chicago lumber futures bottomed below the $400 per thousand feet mark as persistent fears of a demand-sapping global recession prompted some profit-taking after a massive rally drove prices to an over three-month high in early February. We have installed 16 pine tongue and groove boards around the house to give it a cabin feel. While all of this weatherboard, clapboard and sheathing evolution was going on things were also happening with the other stuff used as infill between the posts and staves. It will be 51/2 inches if you have 2-by-6-inch studs and 3 1/2 inches if you have 2-by-4-inch studs. // Leaf Group. The problem with wattle-and-daub was its water sensitivity. ft. home, also is it just a matter of tightening the piers that are loose?PaulI dont know that there is any reason to re-level unless you notice problems. Others say that their 2x4 walls have the same insulation value as the 2x6's, as some builders of the 2x6 walls don't put enough insulation in them. The combination of materials you describe -- interior boards, plaster, then lath and a second layer of plaster -- makes for a fairly airtight interior finish surface. If you believe archaeologists (I mean when have they ever not been right?) Batts get pulled to the side so boxes can be installed, they come loose, etc. They will dry out and start curling around the edges. Pry off a piece of interior trim from around the door or a window. Transitional Farmhouse style home plan with 4 bedrooms and 3.5 baths is designed with 2x4 exterior wall framing but can be ordered with optional 2x6 framing for a $275 fee ( Plan #142-1185 ). One of the exterior side walls is lowered into place on a bead of caulk and fastened into place. Ceilings. For many years now new mobile homes have been required to meet HUD standards for wind resistance. We might be able to estimate based on the style. so I wouldnt recommend it.If you do decide to cut an opening into the ceiling of a closet or other hidden space I would suggest attaching a strong cord to the trap. PROBLEMS - Over time, the shingles will succumb to the weather. These mobile homes were the type that went up like tinder boxes, before industry standards were in place. Virtually all of the homes we build have 2x6 exterior walls, one we are about to start is a 7,000 sq. These bonuses are also frequently tied to attendance to avoid problems resulting from absenteeism on Mondays and Fridays. The MHINCC distinguishes among several types of factory-built housing: manufactured homes, modular homes, panelized homes, pre-cut homes, and mobile homes . Is it run up from the floor, through the wall, or down from the ceiling?PaulUp from the floor. How to Convert R-Value to U-Factor in Insulation, How to Enlarge a Window for a Kitchen Remodel, How to Install an Exterior Front Door With a Brick Home, Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Lifestyle, All Rights Reserved. Oh yeah, its for a light/ceiling fan set up.Thank you!KaraPaulThe manufacturers are very shy about releasing any information. It has recently been reskirted, and I still have to replace 8 windows and 3 doors! The home otherwise looks good and is on its own land, but not permanent foundation. I own one myself and would like your opinion on how often to re-level my 1492 sq. Can it be cut out?PaulHi Dena,Your question is getting deeper into structural engineering than I am comfortable trying to answer. So check your rough sawn boards. A frost-free faucet with a 4" stem will fit inside of a 2x6 wall, so there's really no excuse for a water line hanging in the middle of the room. It seems like a huge expense. Thanks for any input.PaulI dont know. Builders sitting on scaffolding, 1920s. He still sneaks up on you! Finally, it is moved to an area where the holes for electrical outlets, ceiling fans etc. I cant imagine who would have plans from 1976. That equates to $.98 per sq/ft of living space. 2x6 construction homeimprovementdiva 13 years ago What is better 16 O.C. Everyone who has done home renovation or repair projects knows that. It sounds like your house was built with attention to air sealing. This technology pre-dates the Greeks and Egyptians. That should make things much easier! Holes are drilled through the bottom of the wall and the floor material and metal sleeves hammered into place. There was also a 570-seat auditorium (where large public meetings were held) and a grade school. Can I remove the flat ceiling and vault the ceiling? You must be a magazine subscriber to access this feature. I would prefer not to post that kind of personal information, i apologize, I've tried what i can think of, its balloon framed, brick basement walls, made with barn board walls, its the first time i have seen plaster-lath-plaster,barnboard (1.5in thick barnboard), 2x4, (no exterior sheathing) exterior wood siding and vinyl siding (added on top about 10 years ago) are normally provided by the dealer or a contractor working for him. In the 1930s fiberglass insulation was invented by the Owens Corning Company to insulate homes. Balloon framed buildings are certainly lighter than those built with the earlier braced frame method, but in my experience, properly constructed, they have survived quite well. Maybe try giving the tank seals some time (hours/days?) We use Timberstrand headers. Working in construction for years I am able, but have no experience with mobiles. Think about it, we did not change the I-Codes to require building paper for all houses until after 2000 less than a decade ago. RogerIs it impractical to try to take a single wide frame and build from that?PaulI doubt the numbers would pencil out. Any idea what this thing sticking out from under the trailer could be and if it is a serious problem?PaulWithout a picture I cant be sure, but on older mobile homes the hitch was frequently left in place and the skirting cut to fit around it. Average U value- Beef up insulation in some areas so you can skimp in others as long as the average U-Vale is the same or better than a reference house. After steadily rising through the end of 2020 and the beginning of 2021, lumber prices skyrocketed up to an all-time high in May, driven by historic levels of demand and mounting supply chain issues.. Anyway, now Im ready to build, have been looking at modular homes, and realized that is basically what Im now living in, except for roof and trailer frame. Good thinking about where to place it.Paul. Holes have already been cut in these sheets for the water and drain line penetrations. Do you mind sharing your opinion on installing a barn door on an interior wall of a 1981 Marlette? Everything is done with jigs from a few plans. Mobile homes can be a very affordable way to make a comfortable retirement home. It is faster and cheaper to build and it provides a 5.5-inch cavity for insulation rather than a 3.5 inch cavity. Steps, awnings, etc. Id like to put it in the vault of the ceiling. Im also wondering if we can remove the existing trailer ceiling/roof to see straight through to the new roof.